Monday, March 20, 2017

Milk House Update


                                
THIS ?                                                                    OR THIS?       (makingthishome.com)

First, my apologies for such infrequent blogging again. I know some of you find it nearly impossible to get on with your own lives without knowing what's going on with mine. I'll get better...or I won't. I'm also had these annoying Blogger issues with many more spam comments being made now, than in the last 7 years I've been blogging. What a mess. You would think for all I pay Blogger for this blog...oh yeah, it's free...never mind.

So, an update on our milk house project, the building we hoped to construct with the used tires left on The Poor Farm, so they would not end up in a land fill like the millions of tires already there.  The new building we'd  use for cleaning and storing our milking equipment, for storage of our chest freezers (currently in the 1865 shack house on the property) and for a root cellar area to store all our canned goods, potatoes, apples  and onions. The building we could use in part as a green house for earlier garden starts and extended garden growth.

Yes, THAT building.

Well, after completing the seven page BUD (Benefit Use Determination) application for the Illinois EPA (environmental protection agency) and mailing it in and waiting and waiting and emailing and leaving voicemail messages, and waiting for a response, we finally got one.

They said no.

Actually what they said was, the project was being denied because we did not get an engineer to sign off on it. When I explained again how small the project was, how it was for our own use, how all we wanted to do was convert some of the tires left here into a useable, attractive, inexpensive, ecologically friendly storage building, they responded:

Even if you are only building a dog house with those tires you need to involve an engineer.

Once again our state government demonstrates their common sense approach to all things slightly unusual. Rather than allow us to do something productive with the rubber circles on our property, rather than accept the internet searching I submitted about the benefits of building with these materials, they want us to pay an engineer at approximately $100-$300 an hour to tell them the same information.

Also, the gentleman who called me with the BUD application denial information, made it very clear they had ninety days to approve or disapprove an application, implying of course, that our proposed project, if ever approved, might not get the go ahead for several months.

So much for our budget, (which was only $5000 to begin with) so much for our time frame of building the milk house this summer, and so much for common sense. But, as good homesteaders will often do, we've rolled out plan B. As it evolves, I'll tell you about it and don't worry about the plans for using the tires, we're not giving up, we're just reworking our plans for initiation next summer instead of this summer.

We're thinking of building a church with those tires, claiming religious immunity from overreaching rules and regulations. If it's good enough for Mel Gibson it's good enough for me.

Before I go, a couple other fun tire facts for Illinois. You can only haul or transport nineteen tires at one time without a license to do so. Thus if you are hauling TWENTY tires to your grandkids house for a playground project you better do it late at night, take the back roads, wear a red wig, and drive with your lights off.

Also, you can only keep fifty or less tires on your property without a tire storage permit. If you have fifty-one tires you must have the storage permit which requires you to keep them all covered and/or inside of a building, because we all know that forty nine tires harboring mosquitoes is so much better than fifty. Which all begs the question, if Illinois EPA would allow us to build our building, where all the tires would be filled with dirt and NO mosquitoes could breed in them, wouldn't the tire storage issue solve itself?

Finally, I discovered this little number on the internet and I had to wonder, what engineer signed off on that and how could I get his number? Oh wait, this is probably an California design not an Illinois one.





11 comments:

  1. We need to bring back proper old fashioned secure mental institutions. There are crowds of people out there who seriously need to be locked up.

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    1. And a few straight jackets, the kind you could close with locks. Just call me Nurse Ratched.

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  2. Bingo! As I was reading your post my mind kept back tracking " but I am sure she lives in Illinois?" And your are right I believe I noted that last design right next to yet another story about the Delta Smelt, Jerry Brown or as a considerable amount of folks in this great state refer to him as on the front page of the Sacramento Bee. I will now do a fact finding on what the restrictions are on tires on the homestead here in the great state of California.

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    1. Illinois, land of dragonian laws. For a liberal state they sure do get in the way of decent hippie homesteader.

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  3. Hi Donna :) I'm sorry about the damn bureaucracy. I always figured, it's your land, do what you want, but of course, someone has to poke their nose into your affairs. It's not like you're planning a nuclear power plant or something. You write so well, I love reading your stories! I don't think things are so strict where I live!

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    1. We always thought that too, but not so much here. And thanks for the story comment, it's why I prefer fiction writing over non-fiction...I get to make things up. But never fear, this blog is based in fact.

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  4. I'm not big on stupidity for its' own sake..... so I'd build my tire milkhouse anyway. I'm also not big on someone else telling me what I can & cannot do on my own (isolated) property. But maybe you're not isolated; I guess if people could see what I was doing from the road, I might not be so bold.

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    1. Unfortunantely, we have county assessors who drive around and report back to the county when they see new buildings going up. We thought it would go easier to get permission BEFORE we built, but once again, not so much.

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  5. Damn it, that sucks. I was going to suggest like Mrs Shoes did, just do it. Here we don't have too many restritions in the rural areas. We were able to have our barn and shed built and put in without any regulation on how and where.

    So my suggestion would be what about just putting a call out there to the interwebs? Ask if someone happens along your page who is an engineer that can do something for you, maybe in trade or barter, or just out of kindness (I think that still exists in the world, ha).

    Fingers crossed for you!

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  6. Good grief. I used to miss Illinois but I'm kinda glad not to live there anymore.

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  7. Damm bureaucracy is all I could think of Donna after reading this post. While I liked Mrs. Shoes comment, your follow-up about the county assessors is a bummer. Perhaps 1st Man has a viable alternative? Of course, I suppose that relocating from Illinois would not work as a last resort.

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